Comments on: A Peer-to-Peer Surveillance State? http://andrew.pilsch.com/blog/2008/07/28/a-peer-to-peer-surveillance-state/ science fiction, new media, technical communications, transhumanism Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:18:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Andrew Pilsch http://andrew.pilsch.com/blog/2008/07/28/a-peer-to-peer-surveillance-state/comment-page-1/#comment-1401 Andrew Pilsch Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:37:04 +0000 http://andrew.pilsch.com/blog/?p=105#comment-1401 @Rasheen: I suppose that's true, but I wonder if it's really only just a lack of awareness. A professor I work with likes to refer to these sorts of things as "chain yanks," suggesting that moments like the State College Police following me on Twitter as not something threatening, but something that gets my attention and seems worrying at first (on an instinctual / gut level). @Mike I like the idea of calling it "reflexive." All my students can relate to the fact that I find, more and more, at social events my friends and I will stop what we are doing to "take pictures for Facebook," which seems to oddly invert the whole point of social media: as a complement to real life not the other way around. @Rasheen: I suppose that’s true, but I wonder if it’s really only just a lack of awareness. A professor I work with likes to refer to these sorts of things as “chain yanks,” suggesting that moments like the State College Police following me on Twitter as not something threatening, but something that gets my attention and seems worrying at first (on an instinctual / gut level).

@Mike I like the idea of calling it “reflexive.” All my students can relate to the fact that I find, more and more, at social events my friends and I will stop what we are doing to “take pictures for Facebook,” which seems to oddly invert the whole point of social media: as a complement to real life not the other way around.

]]> By: Mike http://andrew.pilsch.com/blog/2008/07/28/a-peer-to-peer-surveillance-state/comment-page-1/#comment-1399 Mike Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:11:27 +0000 http://andrew.pilsch.com/blog/?p=105#comment-1399 Your comment about 18 year old students playing fast and loose with their privacy on Facebook struck a chord with me. I work in a school at the moment and I'm continually stunned by the things they're willing to photograph or film on their phones for later upload to Bebo, YouTube et al. Fights are always filmed, and most fight videos start with the participants making sure they're being recorded before they begin. Girls post provocative photos of themselves on their profile pages, and then are shocked to find them printed out and handed out around school the following day. I wonder if the recording and sharing of their lives digitally is so commonplace to the current generation of high school students (and maybe your students) that it becomes almost reflexive. Your comment about 18 year old students playing fast and loose with their privacy on Facebook struck a chord with me. I work in a school at the moment and I’m continually stunned by the things they’re willing to photograph or film on their phones for later upload to Bebo, YouTube et al. Fights are always filmed, and most fight videos start with the participants making sure they’re being recorded before they begin. Girls post provocative photos of themselves on their profile pages, and then are shocked to find them printed out and handed out around school the following day. I wonder if the recording and sharing of their lives digitally is so commonplace to the current generation of high school students (and maybe your students) that it becomes almost reflexive.

]]> By: Rahsheen http://andrew.pilsch.com/blog/2008/07/28/a-peer-to-peer-surveillance-state/comment-page-1/#comment-1395 Rahsheen Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:44:07 +0000 http://andrew.pilsch.com/blog/?p=105#comment-1395 In all honesty, I really don't understand this situation. I have actually run into a few situations where people I know put stuff online and when I mentioned it, they acted shocked and took it down. I think it's a mixture of A) people not understanding how public their information is and B) people caring more about internet celebrity than the consequences of putting certain things online In all honesty, I really don’t understand this situation. I have actually run into a few situations where people I know put stuff online and when I mentioned it, they acted shocked and took it down.

I think it’s a mixture of

A) people not understanding how public their information is and

B) people caring more about internet celebrity than the consequences of putting certain things online

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